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Jake Marquez and Maren Morgan's avatar

I feel like you're articulating so much of what I've felt, and haven't been able to access the proper language to write about: this idea that there is something necessary about this plunge into the darkness. Like our collective unconsciousness is trying to lift up all that we're doing - all the pain, all the fear, all the ill-health, all the dislocation - so we can really see it and understand that the path we've been on is out of alignment, shadow as our guide back into the light. As above, so below.

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We overthink all this stuff. Plenty of us want to be on this earth and living this life. I agree with you that we are in an unprecedented predicament today, but it's not some result of being undecided whether we want to be here or not, it's an accident of math. The only thing that makes our predicament today unprecedented being our scale. And of course, scale is everything. Our scale is an accident of learning how to harness the colossal energy stored in oil. Our species as a whole is as it has always been as a whole - an unthinking yeast, all lofty and lower motives and ideas and actions cancelling one another out in the petri dish resulting in an amorphous, mindless mass driven by appetite and emotion alone. That's humanity as a whole and it's completely logical where we stand today given this. The escalating chaos and pain is the inevitable byproduct of overshoot leading to decline and fall. The organism has risen, the organism will fall. If any of us remain, we will remain as we have always been, nothing about our orientation will have changed. Only our scale and our means will have.

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